Comments on: “He neither knows nor cares”: Leigh on #7 http://cereblog.org/2009/02/27/he-neither-knows-nor-cares-leigh-on-7/ Just another WordPress.com weblog Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:27:06 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Luca http://cereblog.org/2009/02/27/he-neither-knows-nor-cares-leigh-on-7/#comment-390 Luca Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:27:06 +0000 http://cereblog.org/?p=318#comment-390 Good point! Thanks! Good point! Thanks!

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By: Eric http://cereblog.org/2009/02/27/he-neither-knows-nor-cares-leigh-on-7/#comment-353 Eric Wed, 20 May 2009 20:11:31 +0000 http://cereblog.org/?p=318#comment-353 I never thought much of the cover to this issue, or to the issue as a whole. The return of Elrod? Already? Didn't he just leave? I love to hate him, I suppose. And, on the subject of Dave's artistic development, the day he moved past Barry Windsor Smith (and thank you for pointing out to me when that happened) was a great day for the comic. Now if he could just move past Mort Drucker. I never thought much of the cover to this issue, or to the issue as a whole. The return of Elrod? Already? Didn’t he just leave? I love to hate him, I suppose.

And, on the subject of Dave’s artistic development, the day he moved past Barry Windsor Smith (and thank you for pointing out to me when that happened) was a great day for the comic. Now if he could just move past Mort Drucker.

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By: Laura Hudson http://cereblog.org/2009/02/27/he-neither-knows-nor-cares-leigh-on-7/#comment-255 Laura Hudson Sat, 14 Mar 2009 00:50:21 +0000 http://cereblog.org/?p=318#comment-255 The costume is creepy because it has SIX FREAKIN EYES, and no one has six eyes except spiders and similar insect freakshows. Certainly not mammals. The costume is creepy because it has SIX FREAKIN EYES, and no one has six eyes except spiders and similar insect freakshows. Certainly not mammals.

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By: Paul DeBenedetto http://cereblog.org/2009/02/27/he-neither-knows-nor-cares-leigh-on-7/#comment-230 Paul DeBenedetto Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:06:02 +0000 http://cereblog.org/?p=318#comment-230 "There are a couple instances of creative panelling. Sim eliminates some of the gutters, for no clear reason that I can see — why does this first transition need only a black line, while the next two get full gutters?" Maybe the two panels are two angles of the same shot, rather than a passage of time, whereas the next two panels are distinctly two separate actions. “There are a couple instances of creative panelling. Sim eliminates some of the gutters, for no clear reason that I can see — why does this first transition need only a black line, while the next two get full gutters?”

Maybe the two panels are two angles of the same shot, rather than a passage of time, whereas the next two panels are distinctly two separate actions.

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By: aintmsbtraven http://cereblog.org/2009/02/27/he-neither-knows-nor-cares-leigh-on-7/#comment-227 aintmsbtraven Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:32:41 +0000 http://cereblog.org/?p=318#comment-227 great catch on the black sun rising! I always interpreted Elrod's song as a nod to Groucho's Hooray For Captain Spaulding style entrances and the extra eye holes I felt had to be a nod to the feeble ghost costume in It's the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown ("I got a rock") who knows? but I laugh more when I think about these things in that connection as for "y'all"--I think the important thing to remember is that Elrod's speech patterns are not drawn from a real resident of the American South, but rather from Foghorn Leghorn Dave great catch on the black sun rising!

I always interpreted Elrod’s song as a nod to Groucho’s Hooray For Captain Spaulding style entrances

and the extra eye holes I felt had to be a nod to the feeble ghost costume in It’s the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown (”I got a rock”)

who knows? but I laugh more when I think about these things in that connection

as for “y’all”–I think the important thing to remember is that Elrod’s speech patterns are not drawn from a real resident of the American South, but rather from Foghorn Leghorn

Dave

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By: David Doty http://cereblog.org/2009/02/27/he-neither-knows-nor-cares-leigh-on-7/#comment-225 David Doty Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:43:17 +0000 http://cereblog.org/?p=318#comment-225 As a Texan, I know how you feel about "y'all," but I've been assured that there are places where "y'all" is used as both a singular and plural. The "Eastern South", I think, but don't remember. Of course, I doubt that Canada is one of them, and that Dave probably just didn't know any better. Anyway, until I actually meet someone who says it, instead of just claiming that people back home used to say it, I'm not 100% convinced, although I stop before calling my friends liars over an issue of word usage. :) As a Texan, I know how you feel about “y’all,” but I’ve been assured that there are places where “y’all” is used as both a singular and plural. The “Eastern South”, I think, but don’t remember. Of course, I doubt that Canada is one of them, and that Dave probably just didn’t know any better.

Anyway, until I actually meet someone who says it, instead of just claiming that people back home used to say it, I’m not 100% convinced, although I stop before calling my friends liars over an issue of word usage. :)

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By: mateo http://cereblog.org/2009/02/27/he-neither-knows-nor-cares-leigh-on-7/#comment-218 mateo Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:02:41 +0000 http://cereblog.org/?p=318#comment-218 I enjoyed the recent posts, especially this one. What I found interesting about your project is that two comics-literate people are willing to take on a controversial topic with fresh eyes. The critical analysis of the current issue as a comic work pointed out things I had never noticed (the gutter inconsistency and the logo conceit, foremost). I will say that in some of the other posts we have been given a more interpretive take, with Sim's personal life and opinions being reexamined retroactively. While I now i cannot be ignored, ( he later makes it impossible) I would like to think that most of what can be written about the man behind the book has already been written. Almost all the reviews end up putting the man on the couch, while ignoring what he is actually doing. Posts like this one offer something new. However you go about it,though, I am behind the concept, and will come by as long as you keep it up. I enjoyed the recent posts, especially this one. What I found interesting about your project is that two comics-literate people are willing to take on a controversial topic with fresh eyes. The critical analysis of the current issue as a comic work pointed out things I had never noticed (the gutter inconsistency and the logo conceit, foremost).

I will say that in some of the other posts we have been given a more interpretive take, with Sim’s personal life and opinions being reexamined retroactively. While I now i cannot be ignored, ( he later makes it impossible) I would like to think that most of what can be written about the man behind the book has already been written. Almost all the reviews end up putting the man on the couch, while ignoring what he is actually doing. Posts like this one offer something new.

However you go about it,though, I am behind the concept, and will come by as long as you keep it up.

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By: Jeff Tundis http://cereblog.org/2009/02/27/he-neither-knows-nor-cares-leigh-on-7/#comment-215 Jeff Tundis Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:03:12 +0000 http://cereblog.org/?p=318#comment-215 No more guest covers after this one, except for Barry Windsor-Smith's Swords cover - which was a beauty! This is the beginning of an interesting phase, as Dave rapidly changes styles almost from one issue to the next. It'll be interesting what you make of his artistic evolution heading towards the end of the first volume. One small correction: Passage was origially intended for publication in Faerie Star #3. When that folded (before #2 even came out) it was printed in Cerebus the Newsletter #6, and then Following Cerebus #2. I ran across this other book at NYCC. I think it may be another inspiration for Henrot, as Dave was a fan of Archie's "Red Circle" comics. This is the cover to Red Circle Sorcery #7 (October 1974 or thereabouts): http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/12741-2671-14302-1-red-circle-sorcery_super.jpg The series also featured work by T. Casey Brennan who was important to Dave's development. No more guest covers after this one, except for Barry Windsor-Smith’s Swords cover – which was a beauty!

This is the beginning of an interesting phase, as Dave rapidly changes styles almost from one issue to the next. It’ll be interesting what you make of his artistic evolution heading towards the end of the first volume.

One small correction: Passage was origially intended for publication in Faerie Star #3. When that folded (before #2 even came out) it was printed in Cerebus the Newsletter #6, and then Following Cerebus #2.

I ran across this other book at NYCC. I think it may be another inspiration for Henrot, as Dave was a fan of Archie’s “Red Circle” comics. This is the cover to Red Circle Sorcery #7 (October 1974 or thereabouts):

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/12741-2671-14302-1-red-circle-sorcery_super.jpg

The series also featured work by T. Casey Brennan who was important to Dave’s development.

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